Thursday, October 7, 2010

The Fifth Down: Local connection to history

It was 20 years ago today (Oct. 6) that the infamous "fifth down" cost Missouri an upset against Colorado. Colorado went on to win the game and a share of the national title, which would not have happened if a mistake had not caused them to get five downs instead of four at the end of the game.
I do remember the game.
Here is a link to a story about it.

What happened was, during the wild and crazy moments of the game, after one of the timeouts, the linesman failed to switch the down counter from second to third down. No one on the field noticed even though folks in the pressbox were going crazy.
Ok so why am I bringing this up?
What I did not know, that the head official was J.C. Louderback of Arkansas City. He was not the official who failed to change the down counter, but he did bear ultimate responsibility for keeping up with the downs during the game as the head referee. - Just in case there are some totally non football people out there who have no idea what a down is, - it would be like getting an extra strike in baseball.

I can totally understand how you might lose track of the down if you were in the heat of battle in a game like that. You look up at the down marker and see what it is and make your strategy, you don't necessarily keep up with whether it changed or not if you are a coach or player.
But the thing is. the mistake happened on second down. so. The quarterback spiked the ball on what he thought was third down to stop the clock. Had the marker said 4th down (which it should have) he would have run a play instead of spiking the ball to stop the clock. So they might have scored anyway, so ... as in anything, live is complicated.

But I did think it was interesting that there was such a strong Arkansas City connection.

16 comments:

  1. “If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride - and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards”

    - PAUL W. "BEAR" BRYANT

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  2. Pales by comparison to the umpire who blew the call for that perfect game in 2010 and is much more relevant in time. Nothing like the NBA ref who was indicted and imprisoned for getting caught point shaving. Coach Louderback shouldered the blame for a systemic failure - sveveral people including TV crews missed it.

    On the other hand, it was a great source of pride to see an ArkCitian in such a prestigious position for so many years.

    How about Ramirez doing all the Big X, Big XII and NCAA tournaments as a referee in NCAA wrestling.

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  3. There's NCAA wrestling???

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  4. yeah, great job. It's because of moves like that we now have the BCS.

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  5. Off topic:

    BY BECCY TANNER
    The Wichita Eagle

    Kansas Bureau of Investigation authorities and Reno County law enforcement officers have seized 3,000 marijuana plants that had been cultivated and found growing near Haven.

    The plants are estimated at $1,000 apiece and could yield about 1 pound of marijuana each.

    The marijuana stalks were 12 to 14 feet tall and believed to have been planted around late April or early May.

    Authorities were alerted to the cultivated plants on Friday after two people clearing areas for deer stands came across the plants.

    The area was a half-mile north of the Arkansas River and four miles north of Haven, Reno County Sheriff Randy Henderson said today.

    Authorities think the people growing the marijuana may be from Mexico, he said.



    Read more: http://www.kansas.com/2010/10/11/1537452/kansas-authorities-seize-3000.html#ixzz1263WQcIo

    Seems like the Arkansas River Basin AREA is a hotbed for the illegal marijuna cutivation in Kansas!

    Cowley just busted two different sites last week! Something like 2100 plants at one site!

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  6. Are we safer because of the arrests? Or is it just something to talk about since it's not you this time?

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  7. Well 12 to 14 ft. tall plants aren't native to Kansas. I was told by an old POT Head that the native stuff yielded 1/2 pound per plant not one pound.

    Safer?
    From who?
    Those who are growing it or the increase in demand of those who are using it which allows those type of illegal operations to thrive in Kansas?

    I wonder what happens when some innocent hunter or farmer stumbles onto one of these fields that is protected by some growers with GUNS!

    Something tells me we're not in "Good old Kansas" anymore Toto!

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  8. Sorry but another off topic: Delete it if you want!

    From businessinsider.com 10/11


    And you wonder why austerity isn't going down so well in Greece.

    The Daily Caller (via Drudge):

    This Saturday, one of Greece’s most respected newspapers, To Vima, reported that the nation’s largest government health insurance provider would no longer pay for special footwear for diabetes patients. Amputation is cheaper, says the Benefits Division of the state insurance provider.

    This is what critics of Obamacare were worried about when they warned of "death panels" during that whole debate.



    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/austerity-in-greece-leads-to-amputations-for-those-with-diabetes-2010-10#ixzz129865gYb

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  9. "Death panels". surely you jest. there will be plenty of Dr.'s to attend to the millions of extra people who will be added to the already full waiting rooms. There will be billions of $$ to pay these new Doctors too. Doctors won't have to take a pay cut. The government will pay them for spending all their lives in school and going ten's of thousands of $$ in debt. No one will have to decide which need is greater and therefore deny someone needed care. No bureaucrats involved. ha. Only real medical professionals will see you now. Really...it's working just super in Cuba and China. Socialized medical care. That's what I want. Obamacare! I'm so glad I got you. You've saved me.

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  10. Conservatives love to point to Greece as an example of the inevitable failure of the welfare state, but they fail to notice that there's no better place to compare it to. Those countries without welfare states? Even worse off

    http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/06/crisis-of-the-welfare-state/

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  11. Response 1: Does the US government pay for orthopedic footwear for all diabetes patients?

    Response 2: The existence of one bad policy in one public health care program does not invalidate the whole idea of public health care services.

    This argument-by-anecdote strategy is very silly. The US is awash with stories of people having their lives ruined by the unconscionable actions of health insurance companies, and it's estimated that how many people die every year because of the US private medical system? Something like 45,000?

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  12. I think another obvious point is being missed here. Greece is not the USA! If we're trying to judge good execution of public policy, we have to look at a place like Germany who does it right, not Greece which is basically a first world country with a third world mentality and has a massive chunk of its economy going untaxed in the first place because it's being conducted off the books entirely.

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  13. I'm willing to bet a good deal of these diabetics are diabetics due to excessive fatassery, and if that's the cause, well, boo-hoo. They knew the consequences.

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  14. I had a realtive who was quite a bit older because of the difference in age of our Mothers.
    He was born with Cerebal Palsy and had a very limited use of his physical body. Even his speech was affected and hard to understand.
    Now most people thought he should be put in an institution for the mentally impaired!
    But, for ONE doctor and his mother who saw through the physical distortion and into his mind! He was saved from an institution!
    His Father died of cancer when he was still very young!
    But, his story didn't end with a human life dependant on others all though he needed their HELP!
    He went on to the University of Kansas and got a degree in Engineering! He later worked for Boeing and was instrumental in designing the automatic guidance and landing computer programs of the 747!
    He had to endure many operations and suffered greatly over his lifetime - at one time later in life he was addictied to Morphine - but the side effects became worse than the cure!
    On his death bed he was teaching himself Fortran. Which is a type of Computer language!
    He never had a normal body but his strength was his mind and the body of others and a Mother who loved GOD!

    God did not FAIL HER or HIM!

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  15. JJ,

    Are you going to cover the Economic Forum at the Brown Center?
    I'll send you the $20.00 for registration if needed!

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